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sauroposeidon · Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:18 am Favorite Japanese horror

Alright folks. There are a lot to choose from, so what's your favorite Japanese horror flick and why?

sage · Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:02 am

hmmm....tough, one. I'm going to have to say Ju-on The Grudge.

1. The imagery. She was scarry. Perhaps we are a little desensitized to the long hair ghost chick now, but back then, that image stayed in my mind long after the movie was over.

2. The execution. Alot of people criticized this movie for being messy with the plot and not making sense, but i'd have to disagree. All that time jumping stuff add to the abstract charm of the movie. The movie was about the unnatural(as well as supernatural)!! It wasn't suppose to make sense. To me the film was an exercise in 'Chaos'.

3. Actors. I thought for what little script they have, the actors put alot of human quality into their characters. I found myself sympathizing instead of agonizing, like i do with most hollywood horror.

DP McCOY · Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:40 pm

I'm going to say Audition,although it's very hard to choose,okay most people who havn't even seen it know the twist due to notoriety,but watched as intended without prior Knowledge of the latter stages,this is a masterful piece of work.While some say the movie is too slow I think the pacing was perfectly executed,the meandering of the first half perfectly sets up and really amplifies the truly disturbing finale.Miike creates a deeply unsettling mood throughout that becomes more and more pronounced as the story line begins to turn in a surprisingly sinister direction.Ryo Ishibashi and Eihi Shiina were exceptional however it's Shiina who really shone for me,the way she calmly carried out her true intentions was chilling(Kiri,kiri,kiri,kiri!) *shudder*.Meloncholy,brutal,powerful,shocking,disturbing incredible!

sage · Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:43 am

DP McCOY wrote: I'm going to say Audition,although it's very hard to choose,okay most people who havn't even seen it know the twist due to notoriety,but watched as intended without prior Knowledge of the latter stages,this is a masterful piece of work.While some say the movie is too slow I think the pacing was perfectly executed,the meandering of the first half perfectly sets up and really amplifies the truly disturbing finale.Miike creates a deeply unsettling mood throughout that becomes more and more pronounced as the story line begins to turn in a surprisingly sinister direction.Ryo Ishibashi and Eihi Shiina were exceptional however it's Shiina who really shone for me,the way she calmly carried out her true intentions was chilling(Kiri,kiri,kiri,kiri!) *shudder*.Meloncholy,brutal,powerful,shocking,disturbing incredible!

I didn't think it was slow at all. Like you said earlier, it was crucial to build that momentum of the first half; and I thought it was done so well...i almost forgot it was a horror flick, lol!!

Shiina was amazing. Not just that sadistic ending, but they way she played on the sweet vulnerability of the first half. Awesome!

sauroposeidon · Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:19 am

Audition is disturbing. The end.

No, but seriously, it's one of the few films that I'm honestly unnerved by. That woman was...uh...yeah. I think I'll have to go with Ju-On, though. But only because it was the first I saw, so it has a special spot in my heart.

ShadowDepths · Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:26 am

I haven't watched a lot of JHorror but my favorite so far is Eko Eko Azarak. I don't know if it's on this site. I'm new and I haven't checked everything out yet. :D

knightofdreamz · Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:37 am

ShadowDepths wrote: I haven't watched a lot of JHorror but my favorite so far is Eko Eko Azarak. I don't know if it's on this site. I'm new and I haven't checked everything out yet. :D

From what i have heard they are going to remake this movie.
I dont know why because frankly i didnt find it that great but i must say that it is probably more western then most japanese horror movies.

ShadowDepths · Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:51 am

knightofdreamz wrote: ShadowDepths wrote: I haven't watched a lot of JHorror but my favorite so far is Eko Eko Azarak. I don't know if it's on this site. I'm new and I haven't checked everything out yet. :D

From what i have heard they are going to remake this movie.
I dont know why because frankly i didnt find it that great but i must say that it is probably more western then most japanese horror movies.

Really? I don't think it needs to be remade. I think it's fine the way it is. :)

knightofdreamz · Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:58 am

ShadowDepths wrote: knightofdreamz wrote: ShadowDepths wrote: I haven't watched a lot of JHorror but my favorite so far is Eko Eko Azarak. I don't know if it's on this site. I'm new and I haven't checked everything out yet. :D

From what i have heard they are going to remake this movie.
I dont know why because frankly i didnt find it that great but i must say that it is probably more western then most japanese horror movies.

Really? I don't think it needs to be remade. I think it's fine the way it is. :)

Well i dont think many movies need to be remade simply because of cultural differences. If the audience cant applicate it the way it originally was then they dont need to be watching it in the first place.
But as i said before i didnt think this movie was that great and personally i dont have any concern for it. but i am VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY pissed off that hollywood is remaking Oldboy.

sauroposeidon · Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:03 am

knightofdreamz wrote: Well i dont think many movies need to be remade simply because of cultural differences. If the audience cant applicate it the way it originally was then they dont need to be watching it in the first place.
But as i said before i didnt think this movie was that great and personally i dont have any concern for it. but i am VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY pissed off that hollywood is remaking Oldboy.

You could do what I do and completely convince yourself it's not happening and live in ignorant bliss. I heard a while ago that they were thinking of casting Jessica Alba in The Eye remake and I went into "Lalala not listening" mode. This could only get worse if Jessica Simpson somehow got a part in A Tale of Two Sisters. (Also, I still need to watch Oldboy. I'm such a failure.)

knightofdreamz · Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:06 am

sauroposeidon wrote: knightofdreamz wrote: Well i dont think many movies need to be remade simply because of cultural differences. If the audience cant applicate it the way it originally was then they dont need to be watching it in the first place.
But as i said before i didnt think this movie was that great and personally i dont have any concern for it. but i am VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY pissed off that hollywood is remaking Oldboy.

You could do what I do and completely convince yourself it's not happening and live in ignorant bliss. I heard a while ago that they were thinking of casting Jessica Alba in The Eye remake and I went into "Lalala not listening" mode. This could only get worse if Jessica Simpson somehow got a part in A Tale of Two Sisters. (Also, I still need to watch Oldboy. I'm such a failure.)

Aye you do!!!
But the way you feel of those movies is probably how i feel when i hear them talk about the Oldboy remake and Oh Dae-Su will now be played by
Nicolas Cage.

***EDIT***
As sexy as Alba is, she holds nothing to how attractive Angelica Lee is.

sage · Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:31 am

ShadowDepths wrote: I haven't watched a lot of JHorror but my favorite so far is Eko Eko Azarak. I don't know if it's on this site. I'm new and I haven't checked everything out yet. :D

hmmm....never heard of it..was there an american title?

ShadowDepths · Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:52 am

sage wrote: ShadowDepths wrote: I haven't watched a lot of JHorror but my favorite so far is Eko Eko Azarak. I don't know if it's on this site. I'm new and I haven't checked everything out yet. :D

hmmm....never heard of it..was there an american title?

I don't think there's an American title. I haven't heard of it if there was. I have Eko Eko Azarak: The Complete Collection. It consists of three DVDs. The first one is called Wizard of Darkness. The second one is called Birth of a Wizard. The third one is called Misa the Dark Angel.

sage · Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:32 pm

[quote="knightofdreamz"][quote="sauroposeidon"] knightofdreamz wrote:
***EDIT***
As sexy as Alba is, she holds nothing to how attractive Angelica Lee is.

lol, knight's celebrity crush!! Have you seen the new ff4? Dude, jessica looks weird in that movie!

sage · Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:34 pm

[quote="sauroposeidon"] knightofdreamz wrote: This could only get worse if Jessica Simpson somehow got a part in A Tale of Two Sisters. (Also, I still need to watch Oldboy. I'm such a failure.)

hmm...i heard the olsen twins were gonna get that role. But i TRULY wish they don't touch that movie!!!! That movie's a masterpiece on it's own.